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Written by Ketzal Sterling    Saturday, 01 November 2008 14:27     E-mail
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For as long as I can remember (about four minutes on most days) the Yamaha T-Max has been the sports orientated maxi scooter of choice. In fact, it’s really been the only choice as it hasn’t had a direct competitor other than Gilera’s Nexus 500ie. Things have changed with the introduction of the new Gilera GP800 and the T-Max has suddenly found itself in the position of having to play catch-up. There’s been a lot of talk on-line and even in our own comments section about the various merits of both bikes. I’ve not been able to offer a definitive opinion of my own as I simply hadn’t ridden the latest T-Max in anger. I have now…so I’ll unleash my rather vivacious opinion.



I’d got sick of people telling me the T-Max was better at all manner of things than other maxi scooters and like the normal human reaction, I’d gone a bit negative because of it. Well I was wrong. The T-Max is a superb maxi scooter; in fact I’d say it sets the benchmark in most performance categories. First off the T-Max is lighter than most of its direct competitors. At 203kg (447lbs) it’s 13kg (28lbs) lighter that the Gilera Nexus 500ie, 15kg (33lbs) less than the Honda Silver Wing, 32kg (70lbs) lighter than the Gilera Gp800 and a massive 35kg (77lbs lighter than the bulbous Suzuki Burgman 650). It’s this light weight that immediately hands the T-Max an advantage in the handling department.


 

In direct comparison the T-Max feels more nimble, changes direction faster, and generally allows you to ride more aggressively than its competitors. It’s not just the lighter weight that gives the T-Max superior handling, it’s also the product of a well engineered cast aluminum frame that leaves other scooters looking a little on the wobbly side. Now add the best set of brakes of any maxi scooter available and you have a recipe for success. The motorcycle derived four piston monobloc brakes on the 2008 T-Max are reassuringly firm, offer plenty of power and superb feedback. The Gilera GP800 and Nexus also have superb brakes but the Yamaha just manages to take them with its superior set-up. Suspension wise the Yamaha T-Max seems about perfect for most conditions. Surprisingly the T-Max doesn’t offer the kind of adjustability that Gilera offer in the Nexus and GP800 but for most people this won’t be an issue. Very lightweight or heavier riders would probably prefer to be able to customize the suspension to their weight. The Gilera GP800 offers the best adjustability but it’s hardly a deal breaker. In early 2009 we’re running a massive week long maxi scooter comparison test and we’ll be able to get a better idea of which bikes suspension set-up is the best.



I’ll move on to the bad bits. Yes the T-Max is a wonderful scooter, yes it handles the best, and yes it runs the best set of brakes. Sadly the engine is a let down. I imagine many years ago a 32kw (43hp) engine was good. Ahh no…a 500cc engine making only 43hp was crap back in 1990, hell 250cc motorcycles were making 50hp back then. The T-Max was making 40hp in 2001, that means in eight years (the 2009 T-Max is unchanged) Yamaha have only been able to find 4hp. That is what I would call…a joke. Now don’t get me wrong, it’s not just Yamaha. It’s nearly all maxi scooter manufactures and for some reason they seem unable to put proper engines in their scooters. Get with the program already, it’s 2008. A solid 75/100hp engine is what a sports orientated scooter needs. Thankfully Gilera have seen the light and given us the 75hp GP800, hopefully Yamaha will answer back with a more powerful T-Max. It really needs it.

What power the horizontally opposed 499cc v-twin does make is very smooth and quite useable. Sadly the CVT transmission is a little on the restrained side so it’s not till you hit 50kph (31MPH) that you really get full power. This means that regardless of its lightweight the T-Max is actually slower than EVERY SINGLE ONE of its competitors. It hits 100kph in 10.5 seconds which is 2.3 seconds slower than the Honda Silver Wing and a massive 5.1 seconds slower than the GP800. The GP800 can actually accelerate to 100kph (62MPH) then come to a complete stop before the T-Max even reaches 100kph. That is beyond a joke, Yamaha market the T-Max as “The Super Sport Scooter”, are they taking the piss?


 

I know power is not everything but, come on. The T-Max is slower than all of its competitors in a straight line. In fact most mid size scooters like the Vespa GTS and Honda SH 300 will dust it to 50kph (31MPH) and give it a good run for its money to 100kph. The Yamaha T-Max needs a new engine. It’s that simple.



Ease of use wise the T-Max is a mixed bag. Storage is below average for a maxi scooter and it really only holds a single full face helmet and a few little extras. Bikes like the Honda Silver Wing and Piaggio X8 devour far more gear and make much better long distance machines. Despite its lightweight the T-Max is also fairly hard to move around due to its relatively high seat. It takes a real effort to move backwards on any kind of incline. Fuel consumption ran 47MPG on our test which is about average for a maxi scooter.



Summing up the T-Max. Now forget all my moaning about power outputs for just a moment. All up the T-Max is a superb maxi scooter. It’s the best handling of any maxi scooter on the market, it has the best brakes of any maxi I’ve ridden and is generally the best bike to ride through a section of twisty corners. The build quality is top notch and very comparable to the likes of the Gilera Nexus 500ie. Styling wise Yamaha have done a superb job and I’d say it’s better than all but the Gilera Nexus in that department. Ease of use wise it’s about middle of the road and being a Yamaha I’d expect it to be very reliable.


 

So who’s it for then? This is the difficult bit for me. I’m confused who the buyer is. Look at it this way; if you’re into long distance riding there’s no question bikes like the Burgman and Silver Wing are better suited. If you’re buying it as a commuter then it works well but to be honest a middle weight bike like the SYM Citycom 300i will work much better in town and cost less than half as much as the T-Max. If you’re buying the T-Max because of its supposed sports angle over bikes like the Gilera Nexus, well rightly so. It’s the best handling maxi scooter on the market. However, part of what makes a sports bike/scooter fun to ride is powerful acceleration, or at the very least, average acceleration. Sadly the T-Max falls short in this department. The GP800 is so much more fun to ride because of its more characterful and vastly more powerful engine that it easily negates the T-Max’s slightly superior handling. For me the T-Max is the best maxi on the market, with a very boring engine. Have a read on what I wrote on the Gilera Nexus as it has much the same issue; great scooter, weak and boring engine.



It really comes down to this. Right now it goes…if you ride long distance; buy the Suzuki Burgman or the Honda Silver Wing.; both have more power, cover long distances in more comfort and carry more luggage. If you want some excitement on your journey, buy the GP800 as even though it’s more expensive, heavier and not quite as nice handling as the T-Max, its engine is SO MUCH better that it isn’t even a comparison. Message for Yamaha, please please bolt a powerful and exciting engine into the T-Max. With that done it would actually be a super sports scooter.

 

PriceUK £5,999 USA $7,999
0-50km/h4.4 Seconds
0-100km/h10.5 Seconds
50-80km/h3.8 Seconds
Lap Time---
Fuel Economy 3.8L/100kms - 60MPG
Speedo Accuracy

50kph displayed = 47kph actual - 100kph displayed = 95 actual


Pros:Superb handling, best brakes in class, solid build quality, modern styling
Cons:Weak and boring engine

Handling
Performance
Fuel Consumption
Value for money
Ease of use
Styling
Build quality

Overall Score

84%

Manufacturer Specifications

Max power at shaft 32 Kw (43 HP)
Max torque---
Engine TypeParallel Twin-cylinder Liquid cooled 4-stroke
Cylinder Capacity499 cc
Seat height800mm
Dry weight 203kg
Kerb weight ---
Fuel tank capacity15 litres
StartingElectric
Transmission“Twist and Go” Automatic Transmission (CVT)
Storage volumen/a
CoolingWater cooled
Bore X stroke66.0 x 73.0 mm
Compression ratio11:1
ChassisCF (Controlled Fill) die cast aluminium frame
Front suspensionØ 43 mm Telescopic fork
Rear suspensionSwingarm
Front brakeRadial twin 267mm discs with four piston monobloc calipers
Rear brakeRadial 267mm disc
Front wheel/tyre120/70R-15
Rear wheel/tyre160/60R-15
Length2195 mm
Width775 mm
Wheelbase1580 mm
Max speed (km/hr) ---
Type approvalEuro3
Consumption (ECE applicable text cycle)---
Consumption @km/h - km/l---
Audible Indicatorno
Full helmet storageyes
Glove boxno
Fuel Guageyes
Trip Meteryes
Seat release (via remote control)no
Seat release (remote, ignition/switch) yes
Alarmno
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written by Bart , May 02, 2011
I already had 2 different Yamaha Dealers tell me I am the only person in my area of the country that owns a Tmax, dealers can't sell or even give them away.
So with so few of them sold I question what people say about the Tmax, its the other make scooter owners that talk about the flaws in the Tmax. How can these people cut down the Tmax when they never been on one? I have a top speed of 105 mph with my Tmax, so does that mean if it doesn't go 110 mph that the engine is underpowered? Its a SCOOTER! is it a requiremnet that ALL scooters go faster and faster?
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written by Bart , April 26, 2010
I purchaced the Tmax over the Suzuki Burgman 650 cause the Suzuki was $4000 more expensive, in that I believe with the Tmax I got more value for my money, yes the Burgman has more power, but the Tmax can out corner it on the hairpin curves and the Tmax has NO PROBLEM at ANY legal highway speed. I didn't buy a scooter to win any races and I would say the Tmax has simular engine power as the Kawasaki 500 Ninja. the only problem with the Tmax is the stock windscreen that causes helmet buffeting. I love my Tmax and happy with the engine power and never expected crotch rocket engine performance from ANY scooter!
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written by fun-speed/power , April 11, 2010

This maxi-scooter needs more power (55-60hp/more torque), a better fuel-consumption and a bigger luggage space under the seat, and a lower price because it's overpriced for the power it delivers.

The good points: ride quality, build quality, design, brakes & ofcourse the reliability (no doubt about that, I read about a t-max with 140.000 km and it was still perfect after stripping the whole machine !
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written by Daniel Ma , October 09, 2009
Great review Ketzal. It is not often that you can get reviews that show both sides of the story. If anything, making mention of the negative aspects of the scooter is good as it is rare to find reviews making mention of the cons. Almost 90% of reviews only make mention of the good and hardly the bad. But yet is true that every machine has its good and bad.

On a slighter note, does the TMAX really take 10.5secs to reach 0-100kph? According to the TMAX brochure, it takes 7.5 secs. Is this true?
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written by ketzals , June 03, 2009
I wish, I think the low power is simply a long term scooter carry over. Seems it's about to change. Most scooter manufactures are bringing more powerful bikes to market in 2010...finally.

I have to say it, why do owners of bikes love them so much. Even if they are junk. Just because you paid for it doesn't mean you have to justify your purchase by singing it's praises. Sometimes we make mistakes.

Not owning the bike, riding many different models, removes the bias. That's why we read reviews...I never said the T-Max wasn't a nice scooter. READ THE WORDS. I said it had a boring engine. Which it certainly does...people, go figure.
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written by Eilish , January 08, 2009
Yamaha has many great accessories for the TMAX. Additional luggage options including a carry along console bag, DC outlet plug for your rechargeables, passenger backrest and more. http://blog.yamahagenuineparts...label/TMAX It's got a lot of interest and is a popular bike.
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written by Ken , December 30, 2008
I test drove a yellow '08 Tmax 500. It looks hotter than it is. I've driven a 50 cc, Silverwing 600, Big Ruckus 250, Burgman 400 and Burgman 650's. You would expect the 600 and 650's to out-accelerate the 500 Tmax but it is my subjective impression that the Burgman 400 also out-accelerates it. The Tmax just seriously lacks low-end torque. Now at passing speeds, it kicked in nicely. With its higher center of gravity and high seat, it takes some getting used to. I am average height (5' 9.5" / 69.5 inches). I really do wonder if a Tmax 500 driver equally familiar with a Burgman 650 could beat the 650 on a track.
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written by mark , December 25, 2008
very bad review! The T-max is the best maxi scooter out there! The T-MAX is the only one in it's kind! I own one and i am having a blast! My yellow T-Max not only have engine power! It also has a very strong attention cather power! Just imagine the die-cast aluminum body frame!! 15 inch wheels!! RADIAL TIRES!! 4 piston caliper, 267 mm. disc! 2 brake disc in the front! You would never find those stuff on a regular scooter! Not to mention the beautiful tachometer! The guy is so in love with the GP800! GP800 is a plain scooter. That's it! YAMAHA is the best and reliable SCOOTER maker! JAPANESE engineering baby!
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written by ketzals , November 17, 2008
We didn't test the top speed of the T-Max as it means having to take them to a test track etc to do legally. I imagine it would top out somewhere between 140-150kph. Actual speed, not indicated.
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written by Jerome , November 13, 2008
I have a Majesty and it will do 93 actual (103 indicated) top speed. What is the top speed of the T-MAX??
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written by Alex , November 09, 2008
Great review!
I totally agree about the engine!!!
Why not use the engine from like say the Raptor 700 ?!..

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written by Steve N , November 08, 2008
Fantastic review! I just heard about this site. I have a Yamah Majesty right now (since '05) and am still delighted with it, but it's no speedster.

Is there a possibility that they limit the power to conserve longevity on certain parts? Not a mechanic so excuse the question if it reveals my shortcomings.

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